It's not the best photo I'm afraid but it's difficult to capture what detail is left, the reverse is toasted but this side shows a shield with the top left and right and bottom centre panels show what I think are stylised crosses, I just cannot see the legend unfortunately. The coin is 21 mm in diameter and hammered copper alloy.
Any help appreciated
Cantona1
Coin for ID please. New photo added
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Re: Coin for ID please
Looks like a 17th C trade token. Got a better pic, that one's far too small! 
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Hope this is better Allectus.
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
My immediate thought was a jetton too. Too big for a 17th century farthing token or a standard sized half penny token. Could be a penny I guess 
Really do need to know more location info though please if it is a trading token (along with a pic of the toasted side just in case
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Really do need to know more location info though please if it is a trading token (along with a pic of the toasted side just in case
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
I'm in North Devon Oxgirl, all of the local tokens I've had so far are much smaller than this one, it's pretty much the same size as the double tournois that I find every now and again, I'm afraid that the reverse is totally toasted unfortunately.
EDIT.
Now you've mentioned trade tokens I've had another look and I think I can see NAT just to the top right, this could well be from Nathaniel Simmonds who Dioz identified for me on a different smaller token for me recently. I'll have a look.
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EDIT.
Now you've mentioned trade tokens I've had another look and I think I can see NAT just to the top right, this could well be from Nathaniel Simmonds who Dioz identified for me on a different smaller token for me recently. I'll have a look.
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
No, not Nathaniel Simmons, Dioz identified the only one of his on record as having a Trefoil logo and much smaller.
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
The smaller ones are farthings, the larger halfpennies.
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
Ahh that makes sense, so it could possibly be an un listed halfpenny token of his then??
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
A going over with a fine suede wire brush(or similar) should reveal the legend.
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
It's another Nathaniel Symons token.
Devonshire token #21 in Williamson's book...
O. NATHANIEL . SYMONS . 1657 = The family arms.
R. IN . BARNESTAPLE = HALFE PENNY. (in two lines.)
http://www.archive.org/stream/tradetoke ... 0/mode/1up
Comparison pic..........
Devonshire token #21 in Williamson's book...
O. NATHANIEL . SYMONS . 1657 = The family arms.
R. IN . BARNESTAPLE = HALFE PENNY. (in two lines.)
http://www.archive.org/stream/tradetoke ... 0/mode/1up
Comparison pic..........
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
Brilliant ID DiOz
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Re: Coin for ID please. New photo added
That is brilliant, I completely missed that page when I was looking 
I also wrongly assumed all of our local tokens were farthings, just goes to show how knowledgeable the various experts are on here
Thank you once again Dioz and everyone's contributions.
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I also wrongly assumed all of our local tokens were farthings, just goes to show how knowledgeable the various experts are on here Thank you once again Dioz and everyone's contributions.
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