Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

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Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Lowland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:19 pm

Afternoon,
This tiny little bronze coin surfaced at the weekend covered in muck,
I presumed it was a copper turner,so into the tin it went.
On clearing up the weekends loose ends it turns out it’s a good bit older :D
I have never had the occasion to look at roman coins till now....
Not much chance of me getting this one-there’s quite a lot of different ones.
I will have an outside bash at Honorius.
On the reverse I can see a dude with a broomstick with a cross on the end
Numerals for II to his left
And what looks like OM underneath.
On the obverse is a right facing bust with hair tied up with a cord?
So I throw it open to the forum-what the heck is it,thanks in advance ::g
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Blackadder43 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:21 pm

Lowland wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:19 pm

On the reverse I can see a dude with a broomstick with a cross on the end
=)) =)) ::g
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Allectus » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:21 pm

4th century 'Gloria Romanorum' bronze, probably one of the Vals. ::g

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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Allectus » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:27 pm

Allectus wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:21 pm
4th century 'Gloria Romanorum' bronze, probably one of the Vals. ::g

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Constantinople. ::g
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Lowland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:28 pm

Allectus wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:27 pm
Allectus wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:21 pm
4th century 'Gloria Romanorum' bronze, probably one of the Vals. ::g

A ;)
Constantinople. ::g
Very similar to this one allectus?
I hadn’t noticed he was dragging a captive perhaps.
Thank you Allectus once again ::g ::g ::g
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Lowland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:29 pm

Blackadder43 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:21 pm
Lowland wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:19 pm

On the reverse I can see a dude with a broomstick with a cross on the end
=)) =)) ::g
Did I say broomstick?
Dam predictive text,I meant to say boomstick :D
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Post by Allectus » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:36 pm

Lowland wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:28 pm
Allectus wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:27 pm
Allectus wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:21 pm
4th century 'Gloria Romanorum' bronze, probably one of the Vals. ::g

A ;)
Constantinople. ::g
Very similar to this one allectus?
I hadn’t noticed he was dragging a captive perhaps.
Thank you Allectus once again ::g ::g ::g
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That's it mate......Emperor taking his captive for a drag type. :))
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Post by fred » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:05 pm

At least one very lost Roman made it to your neck of the woods then! :D
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Post by Lowland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:18 pm

fred wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:05 pm
At least one very lost Roman made it to your neck of the woods then! :D
Bet he didn’t hang around long Fred :D
Chuffed with the find though-dam stubbles a pain-there’s some good finds
Unobtainable at the moment ::g
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Post by HolzHammer » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:30 pm

nice one!
( What's a copper turner btw?)

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Post by Lowland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:38 pm

HolzHammer wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:30 pm
nice one!
( What's a copper turner btw?)
Thanks HH,
Here you go ::g
Some cracking turners here-
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index. ... te=y&cat=y
don’t see many as good as these out of the ground :D
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by HolzHammer » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:47 pm

Lowland wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:38 pm
HolzHammer wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:30 pm
nice one!
( What's a copper turner btw?)
Thanks HH,
Here you go ::g
Some cracking turners here-
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index. ... te=y&cat=y
don’t see many as good as these out of the ground :D
Thanks Lowland,
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Post by Ladybird66 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:04 pm

That’s a bit different for you Rory. Nice find. Wonder how it got there ?

Well found. Now you’ve got to start thinking about a case for Romans :D

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Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:26 am

Ladybird66 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:04 pm
That’s a bit different for you Rory. Nice find. Wonder how it got there ?

Well found. Now you’ve got to start thinking about a case for Romans :D
The beggars were all over here ladyB :D
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by coal digger » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:54 am

Lowland wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:19 pm
Afternoon,
This tiny little bronze coin surfaced at the weekend covered in muck,
I presumed it was a copper turner,so into the tin it went.
On clearing up the weekends loose ends it turns out it’s a good bit older :D
I have never had the occasion to look at roman coins till now....
Not much chance of me getting this one-there’s quite a lot of different ones.
I will have an outside bash at Honorius.
On the reverse I can see a dude with a broomstick with a cross on the end
Numerals for II to his left
And what looks like OM underneath.
On the obverse is a right facing bust with hair tied up with a cord?
So I throw it open to the forum-what the heck is it,thanks in advance ::g
Using terminology like this one can only assume you are a roman numismatist at the height of his profession =)) ,well done on hitting the roman seam mate,cd ::g
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Oxgirl36 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:47 am

The darn things get everywhere s;.. At least your ‘Emperor taking his captive for a drag’ type was in good enough condition to ID.

I do like the more creative description giving though. Maybe we should try doing that all the time? :D
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Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:07 am

coal digger wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:54 am
Lowland wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:19 pm
Afternoon,
This tiny little bronze coin surfaced at the weekend covered in muck,
I presumed it was a copper turner,so into the tin it went.
On clearing up the weekends loose ends it turns out it’s a good bit older :D
I have never had the occasion to look at roman coins till now....
Not much chance of me getting this one-there’s quite a lot of different ones.
I will have an outside bash at Honorius.
On the reverse I can see a dude with a broomstick with a cross on the end
Numerals for II to his left
And what looks like OM underneath.
On the obverse is a right facing bust with hair tied up with a cord?
So I throw it open to the forum-what the heck is it,thanks in advance ::g
Using terminology like this one can only assume you are a roman numismatist at the height of his profession =)) ,well done on hitting the roman seam mate,cd ::g
Oh aye CD :))
The roman finds arepretty novel to me at the moment,
here’s hoping I have cause to celebrate some more Getting found-
Give me a chance to expand my vocabulary suite ::g
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Re: Tiny ancient bronze coin for ID-thought it was a turner-nope!

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:09 am

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:47 am
The darn things get everywhere s;.. At least your ‘Emperor taking his captive for a drag’ type was in good enough condition to ID.

I do like the more creative description giving though. Maybe we should try doing that all the time? :D
There are roman quarry workings just on the other side of the valley from here OG
There is reportedly gold in the burn,bet the Romans had somebody else digging it up :D
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Post by littleboot » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:32 am

Those 'turners' are very similar in design and metal to the copper hammereds of the same period I get here in Normandy. (Denier and Double Tournois and Liards.) They don't come up in good condition often either....the only time they do is when long time pasture or garden is ploughed for the first time and if I can get on quick enough to get them before its been Monsanto'd and before the air gets to 'em, Otherwise I end up with a powdery turquoise disc and most of the detail disappears with the first attempt to see what it is.
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Post by coal digger » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:02 pm

bet the Romans had somebody else digging it up :D

Yea the geezer getting dragged from his hut :D ,cd ::g
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