Help with button ID

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Help with button ID

Post by jones123 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:18 pm

ADX150 Found this today on rough plough, I wouldn't normally bother too much but this one has my attention ,seems early and showing some nice age.

Done some searches with no luck, double-headed eaglej/dragon in shield with crown above.??

Does not look like to be back marked, the heavy iron corrosion could be hiding further detail.

Thanks. ::g
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Re: Help with button ID

Post by Mike. T. » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:36 pm

Looks like a coat of arms, so probably a livery button.

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Re: Help with button ID

Post by Koala » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:53 am

German ?

https://www.seaeagleresearch.com/bilder/wappen1.gif



although the Eagle is fairly common


Any schools or collages nearby ??

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Re: Help with button ID

Post by jones123 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:39 am

Thanks guys, I am going to carefully oil and pick away the iron contaminated areas to see if anything reveals itself ::g

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Re: Help with button ID

Post by fred » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:01 am

Two more on here (a forum not the selling site). No ID but clearer pictures. I can see why they thing German militarty anyway and I'd guess it is from a German state WW1 or Victorian. :D


https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-H ... -p/3073305
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Re: Help with button ID

Post by fred » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:19 am

Above guess probably wrong. It seems to be Prussian and worn by state and local officials, possibly including the police, prior to 1871 (when Germany was unified):

https://www.knopfsammler.de/product/185 ... g2401.html
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Post by jones123 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Excellent ID Fred, thanks for taking the time to find this, :-O ::g

Now I have something to go on, going to have a search for rough date, I agree with you on late 1800's ::g

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Re: Help with button ID

Post by Koala » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:42 pm

the front and back of the button are held together with a separate rim. These were First produced in the 1830's

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Post by jones123 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:00 pm

Thanks Koala, helpful info,

You were correct to say german! ::g

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Re: Help with button ID

Post by jones123 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:42 pm

Got the crud off, lost the hoop..however there does appear to be lettering revealed but too far gone for me to read.


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Post by DiOz » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:10 pm

....Dave. n;

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Re: Help with button ID

Post by Koala » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Crown looks closer to me.


writing may match "XT" in the backmark?


probable a bit like our naval buttons were two are rarely identical
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Re: Help with button ID

Post by Koala » Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:02 pm

well done to Jones123 for bothering to clean and photograph close ups. A little effort has help so much.


So often I just throw buttons in the scrap pile unless I see the rope on a livery button. Its always fun to try and find out which household it belonged to

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