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Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:18 am
by Azerbaijani
Hello, just introducing myself.

Complete beginner to metal detecting and looking to try it out, see If I like it.
I know what I'm like and have always loved rooting through things and thought that metal detecting would suit me as a hobby.
I'm currently looking for a decent detector to get started with but I'm in a bit of a pickle. My main area of detecting is probably going to be beaches whenever I'm on holiday and a field or two when the opportunity arises. So for this reason I'm not looking to spend too much money. I've got my eyes on two metal detectors which I have taken a shine to, one being a tesoro compadre and the other a x-terra 305. There's currently a compadre for sale second hand near me and it's less than £100 but my problem with that is I don't know what to look for in a used detector, whether it's waterproof or not and suitable for the beach. Plus I don't think the coil can be swapped so if I stuck with the hobby I wouldn't be able to just change the coil rather than buy another machine.
Whereas the 305 is £200+ more but it's new and is suitable to beach/land with the option to change coil.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:50 am
by Oxgirl36
Hi and welcome to the MDF :))

There is lots of info on here and a great deal to help you make a detector choice. Here’s a link to some Tesero video’s on the Compadre viewtopic.php?f=30&t=17&p=31#p31

To find out more info on this and other machines you can search for what you are looking for within the forum and probably get an answer straight away. This section gives a great guide to everything a new person to the hobby (and this forum) might need. I hope it helps ::g

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:20 am
by littleboot
Hello.
I have used Tesoros a lot. They are very reliable and well-made. Rarely go wrong and if they do are easily fixed. They are excellent 'coin-shooters', very capable, easy to set-up and light to use.
As a first detector a £100 tesoro is a great idea IMO. If and when you decide to 'up-grade', it will be an excellent back-up machine or perhaps one a family member/friend could use on trips out with you. If you decided to sell it you'd pretty well recoup your outlay anyway. Nothing to lose in getting it.
On the beach? Well it will struggle on wet sand...a lot of detectors do and they are much dearer than this. It will be fine on the dry or drier sand and you will find pin-pointing easy. Waterproof? Again a fully water proof detector tends to be expensive. But the coil will be fine in damp conditions...its only the control-box which needs protecting from water. (Rather like most electrics!) You can get bespoke control-box covers....but many people simply tie a plastic bag over it. Its a small control-box so this is easily done. You only have to do this if its raining or very damp. Most of the time it will be fine. I've used tesoros on the beach many times in the drier sand...always had fun with them. Equally, I have found some really nice finds inland. Lots of info out there on this model and always plenty of Old Skool detectorists here (like myself :D )who can help with any questions and advice on how to get the best out of it. ::g

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:06 am
by Azerbaijani
Thank you both for the replies! I'll be sure to delve further into the forum for more information and hopefully make the right choice for my circumstances.

I'd just like to add that when I say waterproof I mean the coil and not the whole detector fully submersible, maybe in the future? :D

Would a different coil help the tesoro with wet sand? Or is that to do with the contents of the control box?

Thank you both for the replies. Food for thought

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 12:38 pm
by littleboot
Another coil wouldn't help, I'm afraid. Wet sand is a specialist subject and either requires a specialist machine using different technology, or a machine for general detecting that can cope. Quite a few machines claim to be able to cope, but the actual performance isn't always great in practice. Most that can really do well on wet sand tend to be in the mid to upper price range.

In your shoes I would certainly get the Tesoro and get a taste for the hobby. If you don't want it, I might buy it. :D Great little machine.

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 12:59 pm
by Azerbaijani
Thank you for the response. I've been doing a bit of research and it kind of agrees with you about the mid - higher tier detector being good on wet sand. Definitely out of my price range. The only other option would be to get the compadre for land and look for maybe a pulse induction detector for the beach. Although searches are showing that a PI one is quite pricey too ;;z

I'll have to look around and wait, maybe something will come up second hand that falls within budget.and can do both jobs!

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:24 pm
by littleboot
What is you budget? You say you are detecting beaches whenever you are on holiday? That seems to me to be a fairly infrequent use. Beach detecting on wet sand...as opposed to dry which isn't really much different from detecting inland....is a specialist area. First you have to know what you are doing is safe, be aware of tides etc...but also to be successful you need to understand how your chosen beach behaves and changes with weather and tide. Sand can be dumped and bury most things too deep, or stripped down to the black, usually by storms, and reveal older goodies.
If you are digging wet sand you will need a sandscoop and they don't come cheap. So factor that into the equation. ::g

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:32 pm
by Bors
Quote,....." Whereas the 305 is £200+ more but it's new and is suitable to beach/land with the option to change coils."

For your needs, I'd say you`ve answered your own question. :D ::g

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:01 pm
by Azerbaijani
My maximum budget is £280ish give or take a a few quid if the extra was worth it.

The infrequent use isn't too much of an issue for me and there's always the option for more weekends away to the seaside which suits me and the misses! Currently living in Leicestershire so there's also plenty of fields around me if I fancied getting more serious about it too. Which is kind of why I was looking for a best of both worlds detector with more use on beach than land.

Thank you for the responses so far

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:25 pm
by littleboot
Azerbaijani wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:01 pm
Currently living in Leicestershire so there's also plenty of fields around me if I fancied getting more serious about it too. Which is kind of why I was looking for a best of both worlds detector with more use on beach than land.
I have no doubt you have lots of fields about you. But that doesn't equate to permission to get on them and its down to the landowner if he fancies you going on them. I've known plenty of detectorists and would-be detectorists who are surrounded by land they cannot detect. I was once in that self-same position. It may be detected already by someone else, it could be owned by an agro-business and the landlord has a no-detecting policy, it could be scheduled, or protected in some other way. So if I were you I'd make some basic enquiries first. ::g

I think you would do well to consider a secondhand Makro Racer. Within budget and ideal for both.

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:35 pm
by Azerbaijani
Of course permission would be acquired before venturing on someone's property, I just mean that there is always the option for me to do something inland too rather than just beach specific.

I will have a look into the makro racer, it's not something I've seen come up whilst browsing so will be interesting to see what it's all about.

Again thank you!

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:01 pm
by Pete E
I was in the same position as you and for the same requirements bought a Makro Racer2 (there is the original Racer, sometimes called the Red Racer, and then an updated version ie the Racer 2).

Its a good machine, and works ok on wet sand, but much better on dry sand normal land, which I think is the norm unless you go for a specialist PI machine...

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:04 pm
by Oxgirl36
Azerbaijani wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:35 pm
Of course permission would be acquired before venturing on someone's property, I just mean that there is always the option for me to do something inland too rather than just beach specific.

I will have a look into the makro racer, it's not something I've seen come up whilst browsing so will be interesting to see what it's all about.

Again thank you!
Littleboot wasn’t suggesting you would detect without permission. Her point was it's very difficult to get a permission in lots of areas. Get land before buying a detector is a very, very good idea. You may know people like I did and be fine though ::g

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:21 pm
by Azerbaijani
Apologies if that last message seemed off, it was definitely not written in such a way/tone. I just assumed that it would be interpreted with the correct etiquette in mind. :)

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:44 pm
by Bors
Azerbaijani wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:21 pm
Apologies if that last message seemed off, it was definitely not written in such a way/tone. I just assumed that it would be interpreted with the correct etiquette in mind. :)
I didn`t see anything wrong with it myself. :D

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:17 pm
by littleboot
No worries...as OG says...I wasn't suggesting you wouldn't ask permission, but that in many cases that it can be more of a stumbling block and more complicated than you may anticipate.
If you go onto Youtube you will find a video of our own mrix testing a Makro Racer on the beach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XXI_y_cXeU

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:25 pm
by Oxgirl36
Azerbaijani wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:21 pm
Apologies if that last message seemed off, it was definitely not written in such a way/tone. I just assumed that it would be interpreted with the correct etiquette in mind. :)
I didn’t think it was off either ::g I just wanted to emphasise the point because it is horrible to see some people’s disappointment about having a lovely new detector and nowhere to detect. Find land and then you can order a detector and have it delivered the next day (if you buy new) OooO

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:45 pm
by Azerbaijani
Don't want to start off on the wrong foot! :D

I'll check out the makro racer video, haven't come across any second hand as of yet.

Thanks all for the help and advice, if/when I find what I'm after I'll be sure to update

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:04 pm
by littleboot
From time to time secondhand Racers come up for sale on the 'General Chat & Sell' part of the forum. (Sidebar l;/ ) It is also possible to put a 'Wanted' ad up as well. ::g

Re: Hello! Introduction and advice

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:13 pm
by Ladybird66
Very best of luck with your choice. Look forward to hearing how you get on. :D