Want to learn all about detecting? Newbie (and others) Training Day 11th May

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Want to learn all about detecting? Newbie (and others) Training Day 11th May

Post by paint » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:08 pm

Hi, Just putting it out there, is there enough newbies to warrant putting on a special event and bringing together some experts to present a few question and answers session, also experienced detectorists helping in the field during the event? How many newbies are out there, willing to travel to gloucestershire area to gain some valuable knowledge and experience which would only benefit the hobby. Are there any experts willing to offer help if there was enough interest?

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by liamnolan » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:21 pm

When we have Forum Rallies we usually cater for newcomers and have a bit of ground set aside. I have yet to launch the next 2019 Forum Rally and getting that organised for everyone can be daunting enough, so creating a special one for newcomers would be difficult unless someone had some land available. I have organised a couple of XP and Deus Days where newcomers enjoyed themselves as the morning was all about learning from the super Gary Blackwell and the afternoon was out in the fields seeing if we had learned anything.
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by liamnolan » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:35 pm

I think its a great idea and I wish anyone the best of luck to get something up and running. I have a new knee arriving on 18th Jan and so will not be driving anywhere for a while but I am sure that if something was organised there would be experienced members from the forum willing to drop in and offer some tips. We were all newcomers at some stage, all the best, Liam OooO
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by garrettoldboy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:42 pm

hello, depends when and where in Gloucestershire and i may be able to get a Detector shop owner to come along to with some of his detectors.

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Post by paint » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:51 pm

probably Berkeley vale area between Bristol and Gloucester

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Spooky » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:15 pm

Wouldnt it be better to organise a ralley wherebye anyones invited especially 'emphasis' newbies? That way newcomers would have far more people they could chat to and learn from then maybe a handful of seasoned detectorists ..who would find it hard to talk to everyone in one day specially as theres so many different types of detectors out there with different ways of 'seeing' things.
Great idea im not knocking it but i see a gap thats all.
Obviously any non noob detectorist thats going would be encouraged to help the new guys during the day . :) Just a thought and wish you all the luck . ={~#
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Post by oldartefact » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:20 pm

Fantastic idea .. think that someone has tried to start a Detecting school down your way, but havent heard whether it was a success or not.
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Runnerflash » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:18 pm

The idea of this type of rally/teach in is excellent, a very caring concept that I would be interested in.
Thank you for thinking of us new boys and girls.

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by liamnolan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:32 am

I get a bit worried now and then when I read posts on here that seem to lean towards a less than welcoming approach to newcomers. Sometimes its sadly well founded if the newcomer is just after treasure, cannot be bothered to try to find any land and thinks the hobby should somehow provide him with all of the "frills" that the rest of us have had to work hard for. But thats a minority and the other 95% are setting out to enjoy this great hobby to its full and they will of course become the seasoned detectorists of the future ::g
I have had an offer today from a forum member who thinks that we may be able to get something organised.
The idea is for a mixed morning/afternoon/evening event with some practical detecting activity to see if we have improved!
Later on, around August/September we could have the two-day Forum Dig where everyone could also attend and feel more confident in their skills and knowledge.
Buying a good machine is just the start, following the Youtube videos can certainly help but being out in the field with someone who knows the ins and outs of detecting can impart so much more knowledge, little tips, a better understanding of the hobby and ways in which you can enjoy it more. Plus of course meet up with other slightly confused people :)) who will become friends for life ::g
A good topic, wish I could award it a little Star .. Liam :;@
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Zyrbalax » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:31 pm

Having put in quite a lot of hours detecting over the last few months and learnt a HUGE amount in the process (both from the actual detecting and from all the kind folks here), I don't count my myself a complete newbie anymore (maybe a level 2 detectorist now - where the scale goes to 100!). But I wanted to add my support to this idea - I think it's a great idea and if it gets off the ground I'd certainly hope to attend. I live South of Bristol so Gloucestershire isn't very far away for me :)

I am very much hoping to attend the Forum Rally this year too :)

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Date set for 11th May 2019

Post by liamnolan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:22 pm

Yesterday I traveled down to meet up with Ian (paint) and we have managed to get all of the necessary ingredients in place. I will start by thanking Ian for all the hard work he has already done, he seems to know EVERYONE!. ::g Here is a summary and please excuse the LONG post!

The forum has seen a lot of newcomers recently, some stay and enjoy the hobby but many never really get off the starting blocks, for all sorts of reasons and their new machine ends up on sale somewhere. We would like to help them and others who just want to know more.
Some get out onto commercial rallies, but they lack the skills and knowledge to make the most of their entry fee and although they will enjoy the burgers and chat, they will find little to post up about on here. Some may have been detecting for a year or more, but not having much success, not linked to a club, no detecting partner and really wishing he/she could step out onto a field with a lot more confidence. :))
Below is a draft timetable. If you are interested then please add your comments and suggestions.
It will be a full day of Tuition, classroom, test bed and out in the field to put the new skills and knowledge into practice.
The date is now Sat 11th May 2019.
Pets - Not this time round probably, due to lots of livestock about, we may be using separate farms. :(
Location - Purton in Glos, right on the banks of the Severn, you can imagine the history sailing up and down from prehistoric times. Do a Google!
Camping - There will be some land available to camp or park up a caravan.
Accommodation - several local places, VERY good local beers. :d!
Raffle? We may beg prizes from manufacturers, plus you can donate some if you wish!
Who is invited? - MDF members are being invited first, though we can take up to 50. One month before, if there are spaces then we will invite some local cubs to join us.
How to take part - post on here and I will add your name to the list - viewtopic.php?f=35&t=108229&p=958002#p958002 No monies yet, we will arrange for that nearer the time.
9.30am - Registration, tea/coffee. Large car park on hard standing.
Where your money is going - We have several good charities, including the local Special Care Baby Unit. EVERY penny of ALL proceeds will go to the charities in cash. We will probably charge around £15.00 to reflect whats on offer and supporting the charities.
10am - Introduction to the days events and speakers. We can be indoors, even a cinema room with Powerpoint presentation facility.
The history of metal detecting, the Laws, where you can and cannot detect.
NCMD/FID - which to choose and why. Insurance cover, who speaks for your hobby?
How to get a Permission, some tips on what works, applying to landowners and parish councils. What can YOU offer in return, building trust and respect.
Machines - how they work, coils, control box and knob twiddling, varying frequencies, headphones, tools, GPS, clothing etc.
Researching your land - maps, online tools, sourcing information, why it makes a difference.
Planning your detecting day, rest breaks, food/drink, weather issues, parking up, security of yourself and equipment, being aware of livestock, gate security, farm vehicles, permission paperwork, mobile phone.
Test Beds - Practical demo's of effective detecting - tidy digging on pasture, coil swinging and ground coverage, speed Vs finds recovery, depth, systematic straight line, grid or headless chicken? :-O initial quick for signs of where people walked, bridges, paths, old buildings.
Beach Detecting - we can chat about that as well, a very important part of detecting.
Responsible Detecting - not leaving unfilled holes, taking away rubbish, disposing of scrap, detecting etiquette, headphones or not. Cleaning your finds.
Finds Liaison Officer - The local FLO Kurt Adams will explain all about the Portable Antiquities Scheme (PAS) how you can use it for research and reference. Kirk will discuss what happens after a Treasure find, what constitutes a hoard and how we need to follow the legal pathways to ensure everything is done within the laws. Recording your finds, using the MDF site to get your finds Identified - viewtopic.php?f=120&t=98991
1pm - Lunch - We can provide some refreshments and the usual rolls and cakes, probably at an exorbitant price to raise funds! rl; Toilets available.
The afternnon will be a mixture of Theory and Practical work, some land available for practising your skills, amount of ploughed land yet to be decided as will depend on harvesting, though plenty of pasture.
"On the field Tuition" We will not abandon you out on the field. We plan to get a number of experienced detectorists out there alongside you to advise and guide you. Nothing better than having an expert there to show you what to do, perhaps adjust your settings, check your technique, explain the signals. There will be some free time towards the end of the afternoon and we have plenty of daylight hours.
8pm - Time to get off the fields.

If this event goes well, then we will be returning to the area for the 2019 Forum Dig in late August/September and perhaps those new to the hobby will be turning up with new skills and knowledge and show us all how to do some proper detecting! ::g

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Bargeman » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Well done to you both ::g

If I can be of help on the weekend please let me know, I have spare detectors, some nice finds for the test bed, some reasonable knowledge, and a sense of humour. :D




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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by thefiggis » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:57 pm

This is a cracking initiative and well done Ian for suggesting it and Liam for taking the interest to get his noggin together with Ian's and get this off the ground.

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Post by liamnolan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:59 pm

Thats very kind of you Kev and YES I would love to have you on board. The afternoon detecting is all important and having people like yourself out there in support would be so valuable, Liam ::g :;@
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Bargeman » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:02 pm

liamnolan wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:59 pm
Thats very kind of you Kev and YES I would love to have you on board. The afternoon detecting is all important and having people like yourself out there in support would be so valuable, Liam ::g :;@
Then I am in, just let me know when and where, I shall pack my tent and head down the day before ::g

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by thefiggis » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:07 pm

Forget Bargeman, Liam, he's no good. I mean to say, where's gin on that checklist? Eh? Come on, that's basic stuff. ;)
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by liamnolan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:19 pm

I will keep you posted, I will be there the night before as well, those local beers need to be checked out http://www.british-beers.co.uk/area%20pages/glos.html ::g
The land around looks really interesting, plenty of roman history, but I am intrigued by the river traffic nearby that was the "M1" of its time. There must have been lots of inland habitations and trading locations. Liam :;@
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by bob79 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:34 pm

Count me in Liam, try and help the Deus owners, 4 coils to play with both sets of headphones.
Couple of other detectors to try out.

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Stillburning » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:53 pm

Local to me so (depending on exact date) happy to help with this if I can, have a Deus with a couple of coils and a Nox that I can bring along ::g
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by sweepstick47 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:14 pm

Reading through this thread, it's clear to me that this metal detecting 'Tuition Course project', is destined for nothing less than total success. It's a fine example of experienced detectorists who not only want to give something back, but are getting on and doing it!

My hat is doffed to you all ::g
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Saffron » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:55 am

Purton is famous for the old hulks that were deliberately beached there to re-enforce the banks of the River Severn in order to protect the Sharpness canal, and form the largest ships' graveyard in the UK.
http://www.friendsofpurton.org.uk/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purton_Hulks

Liam, its not too far from me so put my name down to help if I can.

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by Oxgirl36 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:24 am

Happy to help too. Have a spare Garrett EuroAce that I can blow the cobwebs off if required. Or add to the Deus army :D

Or just help with tea ::g
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Post by Zyrbalax » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:01 am

Please put me down to come along, subject to dates not clashing with family stuff.

Personal preference would be for a Sunday but either is fine.

Cost? Don't know really but I think £10 would be far too cheap for what's on offer.

Thank you to all for suggesting and organising, I am now really excited to meet some of the great folks on this forum face to face :)

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by paint » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:23 am

Will have a update on info and date just waiting for conformation from the flo on what date is best for him thanks for all the support so far
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by shaggybfc » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:33 pm

Great initiative. Well done to all involved. ::g
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Post by phen58 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:54 pm

Hi All
I haven't had reason to post on here for a while, yet read others with great interest!
In my humble opinion this initiative is a brilliant idea and know how difficult arranging events can be. Well done to all those involved and Liam I hope the knee op goes splendedly and your back swinging as soon as poss. Regards Steve.

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by liamnolan » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:28 pm

Thanks Steve, just been out for an hour on a field 2 mins walk away, nice medieval buckle with pin, mixed in with the bits of two WW2 bombers! Knee op on Friday and then its daytime TV I am afraid, plus the latest Jack Reacher novel "Past Tense" Liam :;@
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally?

Post by paint » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:28 pm

good evening all

Sorry no updates on the date yet, still awaiting a response from PAS officer to confirm. I have got a chiropractor booked to give a talk on looking after your back, thought this might be useful with the impact on your back whilst detecting. She would be happy to answer questions too so a bank of useful knowledge. i also have a local historian who is willing to give a talk on the local Purton hulks, he is a brilliant speaker and very knowledgeable. This will hopefully be on the friday evening for any campers if date allows.

Tha'ts all folks for now.

Waiting in anticipation for any comments regarding a chiropractor turning up at a metal detecting rally!

Cheers Paint

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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally? Sat 11th May

Post by liamnolan » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Thanks Ian, looks like we may be starting at 9.30am and not 10am ::g
Its turning into a knowledge packed day that should be of real interest to anyone in the hobby.
There will be many of us with back problems, some of those large coils spring to mind b;=+
Plus having some expert information on the river Severn and the hulks will add lots of promise when out on the fields.
Anyone interested please contact me or simply post on here and I will add your name to the list here - viewtopic.php?f=35&t=108229
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Re: Specialist Newbie Rally? Sat 11th May

Post by Bargeman » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:49 pm

Don't forget you have the Easter weekend right in the middle of April, for many including me, this weekend is pretty much spoken for already ::g



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