Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

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Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Merneo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:07 am

Hi, want replace trowel with a digger

however whats better carbon steel or stainless steel

and I don't mean just rust related

any opinions on the nokta premium digger or other recommendation that are UK obtainable

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:09 am

Just so we give you the right advice do you mean a spade or something else, like a bigger type trowel? ::g
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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Merneo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:16 am

Hand digger not spade - thanks for pointing that out

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Koala » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:43 am

there isn't straight forward answer

stainless steel doesn't rust as much

Carbon steel is stronger and more durable

but there's loads of different alloys so some S/S will be stronger than some rubbish c/steel

assuming both are good quality and are the same strength the carbon steel blade is much thinner. so cuts turf much easier.

but would start to rust on the way back from a beach session.

horses for courses.

I rarely bother with anything other than a spade on arable.

I sometimes pop shallow targets out on pasture with a trowel without digging a hole.

just use a 50p planter trowl I found on a car boot and use a stainless steel boarder spade. However I now hardly ever do the beach and doing more pasture so a steel spade would suit me better

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Fusion » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:03 am

Good quality digging knives are often cro-moly steel, for example the much-imitated US-made Lesche tool is made from 4130 steel. This is noticeably stronger than 'regular' stainless steel.
The Lesche is essentially unavailable here in the UK, but some of the alternatives are made from comparable steels. If they use 'heat-treated' 'aircraft grade' etc in the description, it's a good indicator. Predator knives are similar to the Lesche, though they are also hard to get here.

It's hard to compare products, as the technical specification is rarely stated. Some stainless steels are considerably stronger than others. How the metal is heat-treated has a significant effect on strength, too.

The design of the tool, eg. the thickness of metal used in various places, all change the performance of the finished product.
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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by PinkFloyd » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:15 pm

Buy black Ada, stainless steel , around the £30 mark
Last you your lifetime ::g

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Merneo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:26 pm

@PinkFloyd

Can you post a link can't see a stainless hand diger 30 quid or so

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Merneo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:47 pm

Hi, has anyone used the evolution diggers

any opinions ?

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Ps am wanting a serrated cutting one
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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by neverneverman » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:55 pm

Evolution Extreme or our Evolution NT You won't regret it. Made here in the U.K. From 304 Stainless steel.

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Hi, has anyone used the evolution diggers

any opinions ?

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Ps am wanting a serrated cutting one
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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Swany » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:11 pm

An absolute no brainer, stainless evolution, I chuck my one in the boot in a plastic bag covered in mud, I'm not afraid of the big bad rust monster :D .

I have a custom made one, nice and wee, lets face it, how deep do we need to go.. usually.
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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Mugwamp » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:12 pm

Merneo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:47 pm
Hi, has anyone used the evolution diggers

any opinions ?

Thanks

Paul

Ps am wanting a serrated cutting one
Been using the Evolution Extreme for the last 6 weeks and can see it lasting forever! Beautifully made and welded and although a tad heavy has dug it's way through rocks and roots effortlessly. I'd managed to bend everything prior to this. Also comes with a sheath which is still in one piece.

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by PinkFloyd » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:13 pm

Merneo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:26 pm
@PinkFloyd

Can you post a link can't see a stainless hand diger 30 quid or so

Thanks Paul

Sorry Paul, wouldn’t have a clue how to do a link.
But if you type black Ada in google you will find their site...
the knife/towel I’ve used for years is acctualy £19 stainless steel.
Don’t know about postage though

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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:22 pm

There’s this longer black ada one https://www.metaldetectingauction.com/l ... ish/103880

Or this black ada trowel https://www.metaldetectingauction.com/l ... ish/103878

There’s a good reason why the most popular trowels are the evolution ones. Take a look here at a range of options https://www.metaldetectingauction.com/c ... ng-trowels
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Re: Digger whats better steel or stainless steel

Post by amphora » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:57 pm

Both are good. It's you personal choice.
I knew a guy who broke a stainless steel each half year, on french rocks. Were my inherit simple steel garden spade still lives after about 40-50 years of regular usage.

For detecting i still prefer my wooden shaft on my ss blade. Wood still is a very reliable good and durable material for that purpose and can handle a lot.
Good luck hunting.
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