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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Mick » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:05 am

Yes but Daz.
In relation to the qoutes, I dont think its as black and white as you may think.
Churchill was a great speaker and came out with some fantastic qoutes for instance but anyone with an ounce of bacon at the time he was itching for a war.
Churchill is one of my all time heroes, but I think there would be a lot of Canadians out there who will still remember Churchills token gesture of appeasement to Stalin in the form of the Dieppe Raid where thousands of Candians lost there lives for nothing in my opinion.

Also read up on the policies adopted by the our Leaders in the Morgenthau Plan post 1945.
And what about the allied war crimes, where was Germanys Nuremberg where we was held accountable ?
Dresden ?
Stalin ?
Gulags ?
Goumiers at Monte Cassino.
Soviet occupation of East Prussia (chilling)
Infamous London Cage
List goes on and on.

I wonder if in certain parts of the world our British Empire was sort of looked on in the same light as we now look on the Third Riech.

All Im saying is its not black and white at the top, just politics and conquest as always....



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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Bushwacker » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:58 am

Brilliant thread/topic....keep them coming please

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Bilko » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:24 am

The finds are great! Any hoards buried around there?

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:11 pm

dazzaessexuk wrote:did you find all of the finds in poland ????

Yes. All my fing are from Poland. After emigration to Ireland I used my detector only on holidays. I saw some MDs in shops in Northen Ireland so I suspect it is posible tu hunt there. Im hopeing to start this hobby again on this island.
i need to dig this forum for more info regarding NI and its laws. Have some problems with translation of law acts.

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:23 pm

Some time after work I went with my friend to dig in a forest. We met there a nice
forester. Foresters mostly hate treasure hunters but this one was interestwed in our detectors. he invited us to search around hes old manor house.
WOW great!!! We will find some cool coins and jevelry- lets go.

After 6 hours of digging and a 150 wodka caps. I gave up. My friend went down to a drye pond.
This is what he found:


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I was standing behind a large tree when he took this photo.

Some ppl dont have imagination

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:27 pm

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Things left by other hunters.

On the left - round thing was used to transport large shells for cannons.
on the right up - parts of MG 42
And part of german gas mask

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:31 pm

I told you abaut a german line and a russian line of deffence. This is what I found betwean.

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Wery personal thing. Strane fealing to find this on the battle field.

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:33 pm

Alot of those

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mix of 1 ww and 2 ww

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:34 pm

I suspect luger

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:36 pm

Remains of a russian helmet

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:40 pm

Alot of mauser ammo cartridges

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mixed with german uniform buttons

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:45 pm

One time I went to visit my grandmother. As normaly grandma prepered alot of food. During dinner one of the plates got my atencion. It was diffrent then the rest.

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:46 pm

I couldnt belive my eyes!

Grandma had treasures!

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Thum germany 1940

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:48 pm

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H&G SELB BAVARIA Heinrich 1939

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:57 pm

Lets go back to the german lines in the forest,

I found it in a fox hole alng with 30 mauser/mg shells

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part of MG42 lock

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:04 pm

dazzaessexuk wrote:love that cross mate and the bowl fantastic finds thanks for sharing them with us

5 meters from the cross I foud one of my dream finds

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a german soldier tag

there ware also remains of a wallet with pfenig coins inside and a only gold thing I ever found

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:22 pm

I can see alot of you guys use ACE 250

I had this MD too but after 2 weeks I sold it. Was driving me crazy. The identyfication of metal was tragic.Often it showed a whole spectrum of matal signatures. I wouldnt recomend it to enyone but beginers


But thats only my opinion after 2 weeks of using it. Meybe the price to quality makes this MD worth using. Anyway I had problems and sending it to producer for checking didnt help.
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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Mick » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:35 pm

Maciek wrote:Image
H&G SELB BAVARIA Heinrich 1939

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Wow, is there anyway of putting a value on thses type of things, that plate is in very fine condition.
Amazing.

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Mick » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:42 pm

Another amazing find mate.
I bet someone will be able to ID that specific soldier from that tag, it may even give some closure to someone of his final where abouts, as it all got a bit chaotic at the end.

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:55 pm

It looks like mass production. It is not fancy so I gues it is cheap.

I can show you what people pay. I dont know if those are original or fake but check for yourself.
10 euro is abaut 40 zl

http://allegro.pl/oryginalny-talerz-wh- ... 07534.html
http://allegro.pl/talerz-niemiecki-1940 ... 42613.html
http://allegro.pl/talerz-niemiecki-1939 ... 70600.html
http://allegro.pl/iii-rzesza-talerz-z-k ... 72884.html

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Mick » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:13 pm

Is there no way of finding out if that plate is original mate ?

Cheers
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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:31 pm

I gues you would have to compare a 100% oryginal with the plate you want to buy. I realy dont know enything abaut differing fakes from oryginals. I dont buy stuf I hunt for it :)

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:33 pm

german uniform parts

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Shufly » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:53 pm

Some very good finds Maciek, and a very interesting read,, we are not to blame for our forefathers actions, you are doing nothing wrong in collecting the things you do,, it keeps the past in reach, and serves as a reminder that we must never let anything like that happen again.. OooO

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:21 pm

On the edge of the forest deep in german lines this tag was found. There was alot of joy.

You can see this unit is "Ers". Ersatz means it wasnt the 1 front line unit it was hmmm backup unit. Most of tags of SS , grenadier <the most wanted> and such ware lost east Poland. Nost tags found are "ERS"
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we can see the blod type of that soldier - 0
Schutz Ersatz Kompanie - some security-guards company?

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Dave8472 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:41 pm

Hi, thanks for posting your finds and the history behind them, following the thread with interest
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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Tomcat-uk » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:52 pm

Thanks for the ID, I found one of them buttons with the black covering and lots of dots here in the UK.
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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Bilko » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:14 pm

Personally, I think everybody is allowed an opinion and people don't need to edit their posts if they believe in them

Lovely finds!!! Hoards?

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Maciek » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:16 pm

Mauser , mosin, stg ammo - ww1 and ww2

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Re: My first topic - ww 2

Post by Mick » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:19 pm

Do you worry about unearthing a bomb mate, it must be a bit dodgy sometimes as there has to be loads of stuff in the ground.
Really interesting finds though mate.
Is the cross German, Polish or Russian by the way, or can you not tell ?

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